Debunking Gut Health Myths with Brittany Carpenter

In this week's episode we are joined by Functional Dietitian Brittany Carpenter. Brittany's practice focuses on finding the root cause of gut health issues and helps clients find true relief from decade long gut problems without expensive supplements or restrictive diets.
In this episode Brittany debunks some common gut health myths! We dive into probiotics, food sensitivity tests, elimination diets, alcohol, stress and more.

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Transcript

Baylee: 0:22

Hello everyone. Welcome back to this week's episode of Mocktail Minutes. This is Bailey.

Brianna: 0:27

And this is Brianna.

Baylee: 0:29

This week I'm drinking a Zevia tea. I thought they were just sodas, but there's like Zevia teas that are peach and it tastes like a normal peach tea. I'm a fan. It's sweet as Stevia.

Brianna: 0:40

Very good. I'm having a Kavita and maybe I like our, I know these probably aren't like fantastic, but it's one of those like little gut health, probiotic drinks, which I thought was fitting. Cause we have a little gut health expert on today, but it's pretty good. It's a probiotic refresher. Again, I don't think it's going to do much for your gut, but it's a fun little drink and it has one gram of added sugar. So I

Baylee: 1:02

I mean it might just cure you of

Brianna: 1:05

so. And if not, I'll just open a class action lawsuit.

Baylee: 1:08

Yes.

Brittany: 1:09

Perfect. Yeah, that's exactly the play. Yeah.

Baylee: 1:12

Yes. And today we do have Brittany on the podcast. Brittany, do you want to introduce yourself? Tell us a little bit about you,

Brittany: 1:19

Yeah, sure. Yeah. So we're going to talk about poop today. You guys excited.

Baylee: 1:22

Oh yeah.

Brittany: 1:24

So my name is Brittany Carpenter. I'm a functional medicine dietitian. I have a team team dietitian, Brittany, where we specialize in helping women with their decade long, sometimes longer gut hormone and energy complaints. And we do that through a lens of, again, functional medicine and really taking a root cause approach. But I find that we're very different. Like when people hear functional medicine. They hear restriction, they hear like, woo woo, right? Sometimes people are like, what are you, like, healing crystals? And I'm like, well, no, right? But I feel, I always tell people we're kind of like one foot in traditional medicine and one foot in functional, because there are great things that traditional medicine is doing, and we have, like, blood tests, for example, are insanely validated, right? Like, they are so great. Helpful and yet sometimes functional medicine dismisses it and it's like, well, no, we have real evidence that this is really helpful, right? And they go straight to these, like, fancy tests that sometimes we're a little too quick to adopt. So I feel like we are a very sensible functional medicine practice. You know, people assume that we're gonna have, they're gonna come to us and we're gonna remove every food and it's gonna be super restrictive and it's gonna be thousands of supplements and it's really not how we operate. So. You know, what we do with clients is really helping them heal their relationship with food, too, which sometimes is counter to what people think functional medicine is. So, yeah, and then there's all sorts of other things. I know right before we were talking about all the things I have going on, but that's the big one. And then I have only a hundred other things that we do. That we got going on too. So,

Baylee: 2:58

You're just doing all the things. I'm like, Brittany is my motivation for life right now.

Brianna: 3:03

I

Brittany: 3:04

oh, that's so sweet. Yeah, and I'm a mom, right? I've got two kids. And so that's fun. And so I don't know cause Brianna, you have

Brianna: 3:12

I have three.

Brittany: 3:13

I don't know which,

Brianna: 3:14

Honestly, my family can't agree. Half of them call me Brianna and the other Brianna. I just introduced myself as Brianna because I think it's easier to say, but I don't care.

Brittany: 3:24

Yeah. Cause you, you have school aged kids. Yeah. Oh, there's the

Brianna: 3:28

yes, school age kids. And I just started middle school too with my oldest, which is a whole other ball game.

Brittany: 3:37

Yeah, so I don't know about your kids, but my oldest is out of school at 2 20 p. m. I have all of this work to do and I have to get it all in before 2 p. m. So it's fine. It's like, yeah,

Baylee: 3:50

Today we are talking about gut health myths because we literally get so many questions when it comes to gut health and Brianna and I aren't even like gut health specialized or anything. We are not functional medicine dieticians or anything like that, but we still get a lot of gut health questions. So we were going to do this episode. We're like, let's bring in the expert, the gut health experts. So we brought in Brittany. And she is going to break down a lot of these questions that we have gotten, but also a common questions she has got, I think, a good one to start with. You kind of mentioned like how your practice is different and well, I don't know if it's like a question, but more like a common misconception is that functional medicine is just a bunch of supplements, and I have actually seen this with some functional medicine practitioners is they had these new patients come to them and they're like, here, you're gonna start this.$400 worth of supplements. But they didn't even talk about like their food really or they're like you need to eat this Really fancy spirulina that you've never ate before but like we don't even know if they're eating chicken type of thing.

Brittany: 4:54

Yeah, and I think that's a good point because we see this often I would say about So in our practice, we are everybody's like last ditch effort. We're like the kid that they put in at the end of the game that like gets the winning shot. Right. And I kind of love that. I'm like, yeah, come to me thinking you're, we're not going to change your life. Like watch, right. Sit down, hang on a minute. You know? So I love it because probably about 70. Ooh, man, it's, I always said 70. It's probably higher now. The majority of the clients that come to us have worked with one, if not more other functional providers. natural paths, you know, functional medicine dietitians. And I always say, because we do a call before you're able to onboard with us, I will always have a 30 minute conversation just to see if we're a good fit, right? And so I'll always say, you know, you've worked with other providers, like, what, why are you here? Like, what did you feel like was missing? And almost every single time they say a couple of things. Number one, I felt like it was a stock approach. Like it felt like it was a every, they're telling this to everybody. It was a lot of supplements and I kept asking about diet and they said, I didn't have to change anything with that, that we were just doing the supplements. And I'm like, Ooh, Nope. Give me their number. Give me their name. Right? Like, absolutely not. And I think that is what gives functional medicine the name that it has, right? Because that is everybody's experience. I think that's the beauty of being a dietitian first and a functional provider kind of second, is that we take that foods first approach because we know that you can't out supplement a poor diet. You know, or if you're not sleeping, if you're drinking alcohol every single night, it doesn't matter what supplement you're taking, whatever gut issue you had is going to come back, right? So we're interested in not only fixing whatever the issue is, the bloating, the constipation, the diarrhea, whatever, you know, reflux, we do want to fix it because we want you to feel great, but we're also going to fix why it was there in the first place. It's that root cause approach. So Yes, we know, you know, if it's SIBO, that small intestinal bacterial overgrowth, that's kind of a buzzword right now. Even if you have it, you can fix it, but you have to figure out, okay, well, why was it there? Because it shouldn't be there, right? So if you don't fix those things, then it's all going to come back and taking the supplements might fix that overgrowth, but it's not fixing those lifestyle factors that led you to where you are.

Brianna: 7:15

And I see a lot of people have it multiple times because of that.

Brittany: 7:18

Absolutely. And the recurrence rate is high anyway, even if you're doing everything right, right. And the further away you are from it, if you're five years from healing, it's going to be very different than if it's just been six months and you get the stomach bug, right? It's just kind of that delicate, that delicate balance, right? And once you've had really severe gut issues, you're just going to have a more sensitive gut for a while because That's just how it works, right? There's so much damage that can happen. And it's a much deeper issue than I think people give it credit for. They think, I'll just pop a probiotic. That's how I'm going to heal my gut. And it's like, Oh, and that's a whole nother thing, right? You guys have heard me talk about probiotics before.

Brianna: 7:56

Well, that's actually one of the things we wanted to touch on because I think when people hear gut health, it's like probiotic and people don't realize how many there are really, how many strains, how to assess what you need, what happens if you take too much of one or not enough of the other. So let's just start with, should everyone be taking a probiotic?

Brittany: 8:17

The answer is no. And actually that shocks people. They think, like, people think, oh, you're, you know, functional medicine, gut health, dietician, which probiotic do you take? And I'm like, none. Well, I actually do. I have several, but I like use them selectively, right? So here's the big thing about probiotics. So a probiotic, just kind of to bring it way back, probiotic is quite literally like freeze dried bacteria. That's kind of how you can think of it, right? That's what's in the capsule. So when you think about the microbiome, There are an enormous amount of types of bacteria, and it's very important when you're looking at a probiotic to be very specific because one particular type of bacteria is going to be very different than this one, like what they function, what they improve, and what they could potentially lead to harm. Like they're all going to be different. So for example, like something that's really common that I hear, you know, just a doctor will say, ah, go take a probiotic, anything with lactobacillus. And it's like, okay, well, that's as specific. So saying, go take something with lactobacillus is as specific as saying, go buy a dog. It's like, well, okay, I know I'm looking for a dog, but like what kind are we talking like a big dog, a little dog, a chihuahua something fuzzy. I don't know. I don't know names of dogs very well. Something fuzzy is all I got, but you get what I'm saying. They're totally different. Do you want me to get a chihuahua? Do you want me to get a boxer? They're very different, but they're both dogs. It's the same thing with Lactobacillus. That's like saying, go get a dog. Well, they're all so different, right? So like one example I give is, so it needs to be strain specific, meaning you're not just looking for something that says Lactobacillus. You're looking for something that at the end, a really kind of good way to know if it's specific, is if there's a couple of letters or numbers at the end. So, for example, Lactobacillus is a strain specific bug. That means you are going to buy a chihuahua, right? That is the one, right? So that is very helpful to avoid antibiotic associated diarrhea. So if you're somebody who gets diarrhea every time you're on an antibiotic, Go get that strain, and it actually will be helpful to prevent that from happening. That's the strain that's in Colcherel. For anyone who is on an antibiotic and pooping their brains out right now, go to the store, buy yourself some Colcherel. But, it is not going to be helpful if you have chronic constipation. You could take Colcherel, you're probably not going to see a difference. Right? So do you see how, like, it's very specific? Well, if you're trying to decrease bloating, there might be specific strains that are beneficial for that. Other ones won't do anything. And depending on what's going on in your gut, other ones might make it worse. Right, so you can't just take a stab at it and say or I know what I used to do before I like really specialized in this I would say go get a probiotic that's refrigerated and has the most strains possible, right? You want to look on the back and say, you know, it has the most different names. Well, I was a baby dietitian, right? That was right. I had no idea. I'm like, I think this is what I've heard that you're supposed to do And now I'm like, no, it's the complete waste of money. You're better off adjusting the diet Which, by the way, is free, kind of, right? Because you have to eat anyway. So adjusting the diet is going to be much more beneficial than taking a specific bug that you don't even know if that's what you need. Right? So, yeah. How do you know you don't? What if you have an overgrowth of lactobacillus and you're taking something with lactobacillus? Well, you know, That's not what you need, right? It's not going to help.

Brianna: 11:43

Yeah, we're like exacerbating it.

Brittany: 11:45

Yeah,

Baylee: 11:46

Did you say people would know like which strain to go out and buy then?

Brittany: 11:50

There's no good way of knowing finding a, working with a practitioner for your specific issue is truly, and it's not a good answer. And I wish I could be like, Oh, I have this blog post that tells you everything, but it really isn't that simple. So even if like a probiotic, here's another way of thinking about it, a probiotic alone, it's not going to fix your gut issue.

Baylee: 12:07

Mm hmm. That's true.

Brittany: 12:09

It's not. Now we use probiotics often in practice. Like, for example, if we have a SIBO client, so that's small intestinal bacterial overgrowth, depending on the type of back or the type of overgrowth that it is, there are certain specific probiotics that have been beneficial in reducing whatever that overgrowth might be, but it's completely nuanced again, right? Like, so we do use it, but it's not our only treatment. It's in combination. It works synergistically with everything else. But the other piece of that is even if you're somebody who took, you're like, man, I took this probiotic and I felt really great. Awesome. You don't need my, like, you don't need, don't stop it because I'm telling you this, cause maybe you're taking exactly what you need and would not be lucky. Right.

Brianna: 12:56

I have a question about that because I do meet people who are like, I really truly do feel better. And for me, it's like, I feel like that's enough. That's enough evidence that you need that this is probably right for you. Their question is how long should I be on it? And it's like, be taking this probiotic that works for me for the next five, six, seven years. I usually tell them, like, our gut is changing, so probably not, but again, I don't have a great answer for them, except for, well, if you feel like it's not working for you, maybe not anymore.

Brittany: 13:24

Yeah, no, it's a good question. I think, and I, somehow it's like, we are always looking for an external source to tell us what we need to do with our body. Like we've totally lost sight of. If it feels good for my body, I'm going to do it. It's like, Oh, I feel really good when I do this. What do you think? And it's like, well, sounds like you should keep doing it. Right? Like, as a dietitian, it's for everything with food. Now, the only time I will have a rebuttal if somebody says, I eliminated these 30 foods and I feel better. I'm not going to let that one go. We're going to add some foods back in, right? We're going to give you some variety back in because a restricted diet is not good for your microbiome either. So there are certain scenarios. But if you're taking a probiotic, probiotics are generally harmless in terms of you're probably not going to do long term damage. But wouldn't you rather not take it every day? Wouldn't you rather try to taper off and see if you don't need it every day? And so but yeah, I mean sometimes maybe it maybe it is gonna make you feel better And again, maybe it's exactly what you needed But the benefit of a probiotic is really it's not gonna re inoculate your gut And so that's another huge misconception that people have so even you know, the practitioners that are doing stool tests They'll say, oh, you're missing Lactobacillus, just take this probiotic with Lactobacillus for a couple months and you'll be fine. Well, no, we know and research shows us over and over again that while you're taking that probiotic, you will see it in a stool test because it is passing through, but it will not re inoculate your gut if it's not native to your gut. So for example, if your grandma, you know, you get your microbiome mostly from your mom, right? Who then got it from her grandma. Right. All of that. So for the uninitiated, if you guys are like, wait, what? So if you're a vaginal birth and you went through your mom's like canal, right? Vaginal canal, you're ingesting fluids and that is your first inoculation of bacteria in your gut. It's very different than C section. So it really interestingly C section babies, their microbiome more closely resembles skin microbiome, which makes total sense. They're not ingesting those fluids, they're really being touched first, right? And so it's, there's a lot of research again on a C section baby and they're predisposed to colic, they're predisposed to eczema, they're predisposed to diabetes, there's some on obesity, it's really fascinating. And it's not to shame you if your eye had a C section baby. So it's not to shame any mom here for, you know, I know I don't want that to be the message, but some things are out of your control. But I can tell you the second they were like, all right, we're gonna have to do a C section. I was like, her microbiome, you know, not like, oh, I'm, they're going to slice me in half and pull out a baby. I was like, no, her gut, you know, like

Baylee: 16:05

I did the same thing.

Brittany: 16:06

Yeah. I'm like, it's something about it. And they were like, you need to calm it down, lady. Like you've got bigger, bigger worries

Brianna: 16:13

you need to worry about other things, you're not, you're like, Eczema! Mm

Brittany: 16:18

So anyway, again, it is not to shame. It is not to say that your C section baby is going to have all of these things either. Of course, we know that's not how it works. It's just a predisposition. And you're, we're wondering again, is it the microbiome piece? Anywho what are we talking about? Mom. Yes. So your grandma, you know, say she lost lactobacillus. Thousands of rounds of antibiotics, it was gone, wiped out of her gut. That means your mom is probably not going to have it either. Which means perhaps you are not having, you don't have it either. So if it is not native to your gut, if there is none growing in your gut, if you take a probiotic, again, it'll show up in a bit. Like while you're taking it and for a couple of months after maybe a couple weeks, but if you test again a year later, it's not going to be there because that's not how probiotics work. They do have a benefit in the short term while you're taking them. It's kind of like fermented foods, same thing. So the benefit of those fermented foods are as they are passing through. So if you're eating them every day, you'll have a long term benefit, but it's not, it's not repopulating your gut for the long term. Does that make sense?

Baylee: 17:21

Yeah. So how would you like repopulate your gut for the long term then?

Brittany: 17:27

The research is you can't which is really interesting. So if we're doing the other thing is like really understanding stool tests. So there is no perfect stool test. They are not perfect, just as with most tests that we run, right? Not perfect. But if you understand the imperfections or you understand, Oh, this test tends to overestimate this, underestimate this, whatever that may be. When you're looking on a stool test, it's a little bit If it says like below detectable limit is what it says on one of the ones that we, that we use. My hope is that there is like a smidge in there, not enough to necessarily pick up on a test, but like a smidge. And so what we do instead of dropping down a probiotic and hoping that it stays is we adjust the gut environment. So the way I explain this is, If we want, let's keep going on this lactobacillus example, right, because that's one that people are bifidobacterium. We'll use bifidobacterium here. So say I really want bifidobacterium to come to my Airbnb and I want them to stay forever, right? Sure. I could force them to get there. I could make them come to my Airbnb and I can hold them hostage and I could keep them there forever. This turned really dark, really fast. I could keep them there forever, right? Okay. But what if instead I turned, I figured out what does Bifidobacterium really love to eat? What do they like to watch? What do they like, what are their favorite blankets, right? And then I'm gonna make the Airbnb be exactly how, where they want to live. Then they're gonna stay and they're gonna repopulate because they're happy. They're reproducing everywhere, right? They're like, we're gonna stay forever. Do you see how that scenario is totally different? That's the difference in dropping down a probiotic and make, you know, hoping that it stays versus changing the environment to be a place that is ultra hospitable to that bifidobacterium.

Baylee: 19:20

Okay.

Brittany: 19:21

So that's the play. That's the long term play. Yeah.

Baylee: 19:24

Okay, so you did kind of mention like the elimination diets, which we talked a little bit before we even started recording, but it is such a hot topic right now. I feel like probably 70 percent of the people that come to see me, they're like, I did a sensitivity test. I can't handle gluten and dairy. Like it's always gluten and dairy.

Brittany: 19:42

Every time.

Baylee: 19:43

Yeah. I was like, let me guess, gluten, dairy or dairy, whatever it is. And so do you want to touch on the elimination diet sensitivity test, but also kind of the, well, just kind of foreshadows, but kind of the importance of setting the foundations before we're just like, oh, we need to eliminate gluten and dairy.

Brittany: 20:01

hmm. Yeah. Good question. So this is one of my sticking points. It's like one of my soap boxes. So get ready. So food sensitivity testing. It is right now, 2024. If, if somebody thinks. Man, I have gut issues. Their second thought is, what food am I eating that's causing this? Right? It's, it's just exact, that's how that, how that works, right? I must be eating something that I should not be eating. And so that's not necessarily the case. And that's why those food sensitivity tests are so popular. They want to know, what is the list of foods I can't have? But here's the thing about food sensitivity tests. Number one, the testing itself is not super accurate. So the type of antibody that they are using, we have no research to even support that if that antibody is showing up against that food, That it is an actual intolerance. There is research to suggest that it's actually flagging for tolerance. Saying, Hey, this is an apple. I'm going to tag it safe, right? Like what's the March safe from, you know, on Facebook, Heather, like I'm marked safe from this apple. So it could be tagging it as like, Hey, just when we see this in the future, it's fine. We're cool. Right? So even even that the core of how they are testing food sensitivities is not backed by research. That's number one. It is completely unethical that these people are still selling these tests. It actually drives me bonkers right now. So let's just assume though that it was accurate. Okay, let's say, okay, well, maybe it is actually tagging for talk for intolerance. What we find is that The question isn't necessarily that you're not accepting the food itself. It's that the question is, why are you reacting to the food, right? So I have, I have people come to me to like, here are my food sensitivity testing, you know, results. And so again, I don't look at it and say, okay, well, we shouldn't eat these. I say, well, why are you responding to 20 foods? Why? Why? What's going on? Right? So, it's a deeper question. It's the why. So, there's a couple scenarios. There's honestly several, you know, a dysregulated gut though, is what is going to cause you to be reactive to food. So, these are my types of clients that say, it doesn't matter what I eat, there's no rhyme or reason, I can pinpoint a food, sometimes I'm okay with bread and sometimes I'm not. And my answer is, yeah, because it's not about the food. That's not like that's the, you know, we're thinking we have to think beyond what Instagram is telling us. Right? Or what these what this marketing is showing us. And so sometimes I'll explain it to you of like, imagine your gut is on fire. No matter what you throw on it, it's going to ignite the flames. So instead of just eliminating things that we're throwing on it, which we obviously can't do because we need to eat to be healthy. Let's just put out the fire. And then you can throw whatever you want on it and it's fine. And I have seen this over and over in my clients. They come and they're intolerant to all of these foods, whether it's set it on a test or they've just discovered for themselves. We do some gut healing with them. And guess what? They can tolerate all of the foods again, which is such a beautiful thing because we know that food is so much more than fuel. Food is so much more than calories. It is nostalgia. I mean, I had a client who hadn't had her parents like comfort food, like when she thought about home and she was living here from a different country, she had food, like she hadn't eaten some of her comfort foods in decades. Because she was intolerant. And by the end, she was like, Oh my gosh, I made this beautiful. And it was these meals I'd never heard of that sounded delicious. And she was so joyous, literally crying because she was able to eat her, those comfort foods again. Like that's why we do what we do, right? Like, yes, that is what food is. Food is connection. Food is. nostalgia, right? And if you're not able to live your life, if you're not able to go out and not constantly be thinking about, is this going to cause gut issues? They need to change it, right? We need to figure out what that is. And so again, one of the things, like a big connection is you guys have heard of leaky gut,

Baylee: 24:04

Yes.

Brianna: 24:05

hmm.

Brittany: 24:05

gut permeability. So, there's a lot of dispute. Traditional medicine says leaky gut, it doesn't happen. And that is, there is so much evidence, like I don't even know how they're able to say that. I think they just, you know, have not bothered to look because there is so much research on this. Leaky gut, I mean the term is like not the greatest, like, we can call it increased gut permeability, that sounds a little cooler. But that is one of the, one of the mechanisms that could be causing those increased sensitivities. So if you are listening to this and you're like, I did take a food sensitivity test and 50, 50 foods showed up that I shouldn't be eating and I'm so completely overwhelmed, this one's for you. If you have a lot of food showing up, this could be The kicker here. So I don't know how, well, I guess I'll explain it, right? Even if you guys understand. So if you think about the GI tract, it's one long tube, right? And that tube is made up of all of these little cells and they're really tight as they should be. Cause it, it needs to be just selectively permeable, right? We want some things to pass through, but we can't let everything pass through. So leaky gut. So if you imagine these cells in between them is something called tight junctions, and that's basically. The glue, if you will, that holds those cells really tight will increase gut permeability or leaky gut is when those cells start to pull apart a little bit, they become leaky, things can leak through. So imagine you're eating an apple, right? And the apple should stay within the GI tract. Imagine your immune system here is, you know, it sees the apple and it's like, Oh, hey, Apple, what's up? Like, welcome, welcome. Come on in. And everything's cool. But imagine if that piece of apple, big chunk of apple. Gets out of the GI tract and it starts circulating in the body. What do you think that immune system is gonna do? Right? The immune system is like, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, buddy Who do you think you are? And the GI tract's like, it's just an apple. You say if he's cool, right? This and the body is like, no, we've never seen this before. We have to attack it. We have to kill it. We have to create all this inflammation to get rid of it. Do you see that immune response is what's causing Could be causing all of these issues, and that is, that could be flagging it as danger. But the fact isn't, the problem isn't that you can't eat an apple. The problem is that the apple ended up somewhere it shouldn't be.

Brianna: 26:22

Mm hmm.

Brittany: 26:23

get that difference?

Brianna: 26:24

Yeah. And why is it there?

Brittany: 26:26

And why is it there? Yeah,

Baylee: 26:28

I've heard before like gluten and dairy are common because they're bigger proteins, so they cause more issues. Is that true? That's kind of why with the leaky

Brianna: 26:37

I've heard too. Okay.

Baylee: 26:38

with that.

Brittany: 26:38

yeah. So really it is. It's not a lie, right? When people are like, no, it's gluten and dairy. Yeah, it is. But the question again is why is your body responding to them? That should be the question. It's not an answer isn't let's avoid both. Now I will say I do have clients who I'm like, Hey, long term, it looks like you probably need to be dairy free, but it's not without trying. And I always say, try it in six months, see what happens, right? If your body didn't like it, leave it out. Yeah. Right? Or maybe you'll get to a point where you're so far out from your healing journey that you can add it back in and you're fine. So I think we always need to be trialing things. It's not, I can't eat, I couldn't eat watermelon ten years ago, so I'm just never going to eat it. Well, no, let's try. Unless it's anaphylactic, obviously. It's a true food allergy. Let's leave it out. Like, we don't need to add it. But yeah, that's really common, and so I can tell you even my own journey that I had with gut healing and just extreme gut issues. I could not, I mean, I felt awful if I had any ounce of gluten or dairy. Awful. Now, I also couldn't tolerate raw vegetables at the time and all sorts of other things, and so, but when I healed my gut, guess what? It's fine.

Baylee: 27:44

Yeah. And that's why I really want to work with you at some point, because I have been dairy free for almost 10 years now. And not to the point, like if I were to eat, eat dairy, I'm not going to die. But I still like if I get real butter, it tears my stomach up. So that's where even for me, I'm like, Maybe there is some healing I need to do where I can have some cottage cheese again. I almost convinced myself during pregnancy where like pregnancy healed my dairy allergy. Never tried it because I was scared. I was like, I don't want to feel mental for

Brittany: 28:15

I never did it, but I thought about it. So I don't know, but for you, I mean, maybe it is an actual dairy intolerance, right? You might actually have a lactase deficiency.

Baylee: 28:24

hmm.

Brittany: 28:25

Because it is real and I don't want to undermine that. Some people actually need to be gluten free. Some people actually need to be dairy free. But I find that it's, there's too many people doing it for no good reason. And then that, as you know, you know, when these clients come to me and they've eliminated 30 different foods or they have five safe foods that they're eating, there's enormous amount of nutrition, nutrition deficiencies then.

Baylee: 28:47

hmm.

Brittany: 28:47

low in minerals, they're low in vitamins, you know, and that creates a whole slew of other issues.

Baylee: 28:52

and also like added stress when you're constantly thinking about like what you can and can't eat. I actually I had someone that I've been working with and he was like, I need to know what I can eat. And I was like, Okay, let's rewind a little bit. Let's like Let's just get your body on a foundational level. So we work through like creating meals that are the state satiating with including protein, fat, fiber, whole foods, starchy carbs, and these different pieces, we really adjusted his diet. We looked at sleep. We looked at his nervous system. Stress was a big thing. By the end of it, he has no bloating anymore. He has no constipation. And he's like, I honestly was about to spend all this money because I thought something was seriously wrong with me. And I think that is kind of a big thing right now with gut health too, is we don't think it's a foundational thing we need to fix. Like we don't think it's, we need to eat breakfast or we need to drink water or we need to eat fiber. We're like, there is something seriously wrong with me. And that's Kind of the thinking I feel like is going on a lot right now where we just forget about the foundations and we jump straight to I need all this testing. I need to get rid of all this food.

Brittany: 30:02

And it's a huge problem, right? So we that's the first thing we do with clients is the foundations. I'm not going to go straight to gut testing. If you're eating one meal a day and it's fast food and you're stressed to the max and you're not sleeping. Why am I going to test your gut? I can already tell you yeah. So let's save, let's save that money. Right. And put it into, you know, just like, okay. Start out with those foundational things. Those unsexy things, right, are really what make a huge difference. But even the stress management piece, I mean, stress alone can be the reason for your gut issues. Truly. So I have some clients who want to work with us or I'll have a call with them. And I'm like, listen, we can help you a hundred percent, but I will not take you on as a client unless you're seeing a therapist as well. Because why it's just going to waste like, yeah, we can adjust your food and nutrition, but we're not going to get where you want to be because all this, just this 30 minute conversation we just had, I can feel the stress through the monitor. Right? I'm not going to take on a client who I don't think we can actually help in the end. And if there is a barrier to that, I'm not going to have you waste your time or money or our time so that we can spend it on another client who maybe is ready. And it's not a negative. It's just like, Hey, just so you know, this is a big thing, right? And maybe invest over here in a therapy. Like maybe this will fix your gut issues. You think it's over here. You think it's us, maybe it's somebody else that can help, you know, And so,

Baylee: 31:27

like my favorite thing about you. Brianna and I talked about this before. We're like, oh, we need to have Brittany on. We're like, we just love how straightforward she is. But like, you do it in the best way possible. Like you're not going to pretend that you're going to fix every single thing. And someone else is like, you give people exactly what they need. And then you're also very real. Like, if I can't help you, you're going to let people know I can't help you. And that's what we really like about you two and your practice.

Brianna: 31:53

I think you also make it feel like a little more underwhelming, right? And just be like, Hey, you're fine. Like you're okay. I think crazy is happening. We're not have to like live this or stricter lifestyle or do all these crazy protocols. Like let's just start here. Let's just hear. I love that.

Brittany: 32:11

yeah, for sure. And I think, again, we lose sight of that because people are so confused about even the foundations, like you say, okay, what are foundations for healthy living? I think 20 years ago, people could have rattled off exactly what it is. But now, people are like, oh, it's probably, wait, it's fruit, but not, no, not some fruit, that's bad, and it's, it's eating whole grains, well, no, it's not grains, you know, the anti nutrients, and then vegetables, but not the, not the ones that are bad for your thyroid, you know, like, it's gotten so insane, and it, like, is enough to just make you scream, and I'm a practitioner, and it's like, I'm like, oh my gosh, aren't you guys tired? Are you tired of like all of this mixed messaging and it's so challenging and honestly the reason people ask me a lot like why is nutrition so confusing and number one I say it's not but you know it's not as complicated as we're making it out to be your body is is resilient but the other reason why it's so confusing because you you know I have a different opinion I have an opinion about gluten that another practitioner will be like absolutely not there is no shred of gluten that you could eat that is healthy like That messaging is out there, right? And the reality is that I am correct about a certain population, and they are correct as well. Now, I have more of a, maybe a balance of like, no, this is my perspective for the masses, but there are people who do need to be gluten free. Right? So it's like there is an ounce of truth. There is a shred of truth in every perspective. Even the carnivore diet. I do not recommend the carnivore diet. I've never recommended it to anyone, nor will I ever, but it can be done decently in a specific population, a tiny population, tiny percentage, right? Or you look at keto. Keto can work great for some people. Not for my audience. Not for women of childbearing age who, you know, like that's not the play. And you have to have vegetables too. Like you have to have fiber. And then there's that whole group that says you should never eat plants and you don't need fiber. And it's like, okay, well, let's not be crazy. But there is a part, a tiny percentage of people who could benefit from that message. And so, again, that's why it's so confusing because. It's a little bit, it's probably true for somebody. You just have to figure out who's talking to me and am I their target audience? And that's hard on the receiving end of our messaging. Right?

Baylee: 34:39

two things there where it is hard as a consumer because we have access to so many different like just health professionals in general where it gets overwhelming because we start following all those people like, wow, I really liked this video. I'm going to follow them. Okay. I like this video. I'm going to follow them. And now we have 29 different health professionals on our feed that. Have different target audiences. So they're kind of saying different things, but they're like, okay, well, am I supposed to follow this person? Am I supposed to follow this person? They're wrong. Like, it's not necessarily that one person's right. And one person's wrong, but you have to think on social media, people are talking to whoever is watching. We're not talking to just you as one person. So I think that is definitely one thing to keep in mind. And then also the second thing that you kind of mentioned is it's a blessing and a curse to have all this access to information and information. I've really recognized that not only as a dietitian, but as becoming a new mom, even where it's like everything that would happen with Dan and I'm Googling for hours. And I mean, one time I read something that they shouldn't wear hoods because as they're sleeping, they could choke. I'm like, great. Now he's going to choke and die if his shirt has a hood on it. So rid of all of those. Yes.

Brittany: 35:51

There's so much information and it's paralyzing for people, paralyzing. And so I think if we can make it less scary, if we can be like, let's calm it down, you know, in a very loving way, I'm going to tell you that in a very loving way. And is it that serious? Right. Or even like, okay. So you think that Gluten is bad. Let's try it. Right. Go out and get something that you really love. Have a piece of cake, but I need you to be, we're going to focus on eating environment. You can't inhale it. You got to eat it calmly. I want you to sit with each bite, chew it, think about it. Think if you love it, you know, if you're enjoying it and it just goes a long way, right? Because how many times, I mean, your mind is so powerful. It is so powerful and it can literally create. what do you think happens if you, and this would be an interesting experiment for you, Bailey, which I need to connect you with Ori Goldstein, who I have a new partnership with. But anyway if you know, know that you have a dairy issue and somebody hands you this cheesecake, this piece of cheesecake, right? And you're like, there's no way that's going to go well, right?

Baylee: 36:54

It's already hurting.

Brittany: 36:55

Yeah, you're like, Oh gosh, I do have to run to the restroom. So exactly. So if you eat, say you did decide, okay, I'm going to eat this cheesecake today. What is your mind doing? Your mind is like, Oh, Bailey, Bailey, Bailey, come on, girl. Like

Baylee: 37:08

You're an idiot.

Brittany: 37:09

are like, okay, when is it going to strike? And then you're sitting there anticipating the symptom. You're like, okay, is it? Oh, there it is. Yep. There it is. You know, it's like your mind. So how much of that was the dairy? And again, for you, it might be the dairy, right? But what is, is your mind causing those issues? Because you're anticipating those issues. That is huge in the gut health fields. I think I'm going to get bloated. Am I bloated? Am I bloated looking in the, you know,

Brianna: 37:37

I got unbloated. Yeah.

Brittany: 37:38

Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, if you stood here right now, you could probably make your leg itch. If you thought hard enough about it, you're like, is my leg

Brianna: 37:46

Stop me trying.

Brittany: 37:47

I know everyone's like, oh, scratching their leg, but it's true. So if you can create, if you can cause your leg to itch, what else is your mind causing? And I have clients where that has been their whole journey is truly up here. Nothing is different because we helped them realize, okay, well, your routine when you're going into the office is your exact routine when you're staying at home. So why can't you hold your bowels? For the hour commute. Why do you have to stop three times if everything is the same? The only thing is here. Why do you have such severe gut symptoms when you're home but when you're in Bali? You feel great. It's because nobody is sad in Bali. Nobody is stressed in Bali. Everybody's happy. I think. I've never been.

Baylee: 38:33

Yeah,

Brittany: 38:33

you know what I'm saying, like, Bali, if you're listening somebody, shoot me over there. Do you get what I'm saying, though? It's like, if, if there is such a stark contrast, and you're arguably eating worse on vacation, that's my big red flag. When I hear stories like that, I'm like, okay, this is gonna be a different journey for you. Which is harder. It's harder. People are like, I would rather eat grass for the rest of my life than manage my stress.

Brianna: 39:02

a hundred

Brittany: 39:02

That's way harder.

Baylee: 39:03

do. Yeah, it's scary to have to manage your stress and set boundaries and determine what is actually going on up there. And the way I've actually explained it to someone the other day was, okay, in school, when you had to take a test, did you feel like you were pooping your brains out all morning? But usually you don't do that. That's that mind in talking.

Brittany: 39:22

A hundred percent. And the fact that we think they're separate is wild. It's just how, like, when you were a kid, you could convince your, or even maybe now, you know, when you think you hear a noise and you're like, Oh my gosh, of course my husband's gone. There's someone in the house. They're about to murder me. You have physical manifestations of that fear. There's nothing different in your physical environment. There is no said murderer in your house. That you have seen it is this that created physical changes in your body and we think it's not connected

Baylee: 39:52

Yeah, maybe I have more mindset things to work on than I thought, because that is definitely me.

Brittany: 39:57

Yes, but you know, and that's just like, again, if it can cause us to literally be in fight or flight, like where we are prepared to like slash someone's throat, who's coming after. Again, this got real dark real fast. I don't know where my head's at today.

Brianna: 40:11

Oh, what docuseries have you been watching? I wanna know.

Brittany: 40:14

None, none. It's just my natural brain, I guess. Yeah, this is my first day back after a week in Florida. So maybe that's like,

Brianna: 40:23

Yeah. I love

Brittany: 40:24

like sad vibes. No, anyway, I'm very happy to be here. Where was that going? But yeah, anyway, mind is so powerful and Bailey, I know you and I have spoke. That's literally why we created that shift community. And that partnership, like I mentioned with Ori Goldstein is because I see over and over again, how clients. They're doing all of the things, but they will not manage their stress or they will not manage address their mindset or how much that's playing into it. And even as dietitians, you guys know, like if you're struggling with emotional eating, with binge eating, with all of those things, it literally is up here. If you can shift this, it will change your whole life, and you never have to dye it again. And so I just thought over and over, like, how do we make that more accessible? And again, that's why that community is there, because I could no longer ignore, like, no, we need, like, to bring in a professional. Because I can take it a little bit, right? We can talk about mindset stuff, but I can't do that deep dive into, like, you know, what your mom said to you when you were a toddler or something like, like, that's not, you know, but it really shows up for people.

Baylee: 41:26

absolutely. I tell people all the time, like, I honestly make a lot of people cry on my one, like not in a proud way, but in a way to show that nutrition being a dietitian, it's more than just eat this, not that it's like, okay, why do you feel this way? Like who has told you all your life? And sometimes it's like, well, I was sent to weight watchers camp when I was 10 years old and it's like, So this has been for 40 years that you felt like you're not enough or whatever thoughts come up around it. So there is a lot of things that definitely come up with the mind and it goes back in years.

Brittany: 42:03

Yeah. And it's like, we can take them far on that journey, but then beyond it, I mean, again, that's why that community, it's like, oh, I'm so excited to bring it. I'm like, it's a revolution. We're going to like, Take over because you're finding, you know, it's that combination of the nutrition and that deep mindset stuff that's out of our scope. And it's like, imagine the power of all of that. If your mind is functioning optimally, you're taking a root cause approach to your mind and you're doing the same with your body. I mean, unstoppable, right?

Baylee: 42:32

excited for it. I'm going to,

Brittany: 42:34

Yeah, I know. I'll let you know when we, when we bait a lunch, it'll be a couple of weeks, we're still fine tuning things. But yeah, I'm definitely going to let you, I have practitioners in there now. So I think everyone's like, I want to come and I'm like, yeah, come on girl. Come on over.

Baylee: 42:48

Yeah. And kind of switching it up a little bit because we can talk about mindset all the time.

Brittany: 42:54

Mm hmm.

Brianna: 42:55

I love it.

Baylee: 42:56

So you mentioned like Florida and you mentioned vacations. A lot of times when those things pop up, alcohol comes up. So kind of discuss the impact of alcohol on gut health. Is it really that bad?

Brittany: 43:08

Mm hmm. Yes. Yes. And it doesn't mean you can't ever drink. Again, that's where that, like, let's, is it a problem? Yeah. Does it mean you can never? No. But we do have to keep it in check and kind of selectively figure out when we're going to add alcohol or if you just want to give it up and have mocktails. But, but yeah, I mean, it's really problematic from a lot of different angles, but just on its own, I mean, alcohol is literally a poison for the body. I mean, that is why if you always notice like diarrhea, loose stools after you've drank alcohol, it is literally your body, like trying to get it out of your system. And whenever you have loose stools or like liquidy PC stools. It's because things moved through too quickly. It's like when you have diarrhea when you're sick. It is literally your body being like, can we get this out, please, as fast as possible? And that's what's happening with alcohol. And so, I think we sometimes forget that it is a literal poison for the body. Even red wine, the benefits of red wine do not outweigh The negatives of the red wine, so not to say you can't have it again. I was in Florida and I partook and a lot of partook. I mean, that's a word. I had a lot to drink, right? Now it's like, but I was also practicing, you know, getting up and moving my body and I was, you know, prioritizing nutrition. So it's an all, it's not like, oh, that was the thing. But it, it can really create problems with the types of bacteria that are or are not growing in your gut. So, increasing bad bacteria, decreasing good bacteria, which on its own can create a whole slew of issues. It can kill, I mean, it leads to cell death, and your whole GI tract is made up of cells, so then are you damaging the mucosal lining, and You know, that's literally just the start. But I think the big thing too is when you drink, what do your food decisions look like? And that's obviously related to if you're trying to lose weight or, you know, but very relevant to gut health too. I mean, how many times have you been a little bit tipsy and you're like, you know, what I want is nachos and French fries and let's dip the French fries in the nachos. Right. It's like, why we wouldn't do

Brianna: 45:08

let's stay up later and not sleep, and then I'm hung over. So let's just start off with like a triple shot espresso

Brittany: 45:15

Exactly. It's like, what are the aftereffects? Is it the alcohol? A little bit. But is it all the other things? Yeah. Yeah. The lack of sleep and everything else. And so, it's just like with nutrition. We can't say, oh, it's sodium. Sodium's the problem. You know? It's like, okay, well, what is the thing? What is, what else is that leading to? What foods are you eating that have the high sodium? So, it's never a simple answer, except, I guess maybe it is, that alcohol is unequivocally bad. But here's the thing too, I mean, even our standards, like our government standards, are like, one drink a day for women is fine. No, it's not. No, it's not. Three nights a week drinking is not fine. No, it's not. Right? Binge drinking every weekend is not fine.

Baylee: 46:01

Wouldn't recommend.

Brittany: 46:02

So, there are some things, again, I'm like, all foods can fit, and I truly mean that. Like, you can have Oreos. You can have nachos. Now, we're going to do it mindfully. I'm going to give you the skills and how to do it, so you don't feel like garbage afterwards and then make other poor decisions, right? But alcohol is one of those that like, do I still drink? Absolutely. This isn't me on a high horse saying don't drink, but I'm very selective. I make clients say, you know, well, they're used to drinking every Saturday when they go out with friends, but I have them say, okay, well, do I even feel like drinking or am I just drinking? Because that's what we do on Saturday. And that really changes it for them. You know, would you be most of the time I find people just want to hold a drink. I just want to hold a fancy drink. I don't care if there's alcohol in it or not. So often a mocktail will work. Or drinking an Ollie pop at a, you know, if you're at home, like something that is flavored, that isn't water. That you can hold is sometimes all you need and people realize like, Oh, I didn't realize how many times I was drinking when I actually didn't want to drink. It didn't even sound good. So it's getting off of, yeah, it's getting off of autopilot and still drinking when you want, but within reason and not making it, it can't even be a weekly thing because that's it doesn't matter what the government standards are. It's a hard no.

Brianna: 47:16

I actually it's funny you brought up the glass, like red wine. I had a talk with someone yesterday who was like, yeah, my doctor said a glass of red wine a day can be beneficial. Like there could be benefits to it. I'm like, I think there's other ways to get those benefits if there's

Brittany: 47:29

there are.

Brianna: 47:30

other ways to get those benefits. Because alcohol is a toxin, like our body doesn't do anything. We don't get anything from it. Mm-Hmm.

Brittany: 47:37

Yeah. And I think, yeah, it's like what you said. Well, yeah. Okay. But is there another way where people say, well, this is the only way I can relax. And I'm like, well, that is a whole bigger conversation. If you need a substance, to relax you. We need to talk about why you're so stressed in the first place and needing something to escape, right? Like it's not that simple or people, you know, they, it's used as a crutch and it's like, okay, well let's take a root cause approach. Let's bring it way back and say, okay, what in your day is causing you such immense stress? And then, you know, is it boundaries? We need to look at it. Is it asking for help? Is it saying no to things? You know, it's such a bigger conversation. Which again, people usually aren't willing to look at. They'll pay a lot for supplements and they'll pay a lot for whatever, but they won't manage their stress. And that's hard because you can't, you can't do much, you know, if you're not managing it.

Baylee: 48:28

And speaking of things that alter the gut microbiome and everything, what is your take on artificial sweeteners or stevia or monk fruit or allulose is becoming really big right now? Because, I mean, you're a gut health dietitian, but I'm sure you also work with a lot of people that are trying to lose weight. And so a lot of times that comes with, I'm doing everything sugar free. And so we're substituting a lot of things. Yeah.

Brittany: 48:53

It's tricky because the research on some things is promising that some things aren't that great. But again, I go back to the bigger picture. So if I am on a road trip, I'm getting a diet Coke. It's like a thing, I love it. I analyze every time, like, do I want this Diet Coke today? Yes, yes I do. And I never really drink all of it, but it's just like, no, that's my thing, right? And so, is there something in Diet Coke that's potentially bad for my gut? Sure, maybe, right? But if I'm just doing it when I go on road trips, I'm not going to panic about it. I'm not going to sit there and sip water when I really want a Diet Coke, right? But again, it's bringing the mindfulness in and it's looking at the big picture. Because you could make an argument for literally every ingredient and food under the sun that it's bad for something. But you can also choose to look at it and say, Okay. How am I using this and why do I need it? So for some of my clients, they are clinging to their soda or diet soda for dear life. They drink it every day at three or whatever it is. And so when we get to it, it's like, okay, well, why are you drinking that at three? There's multiple things that come up. Sometimes it's an energy slump. Okay, well then that tells us we need to fix the energy slump. Diet Coke isn't the answer. If that's your lifeline, we need to fix why you need a lifeline. And so it's like, again, it goes back to like, you shouldn't be having these things every day anyway, it shouldn't be a crutch. So can we figure out a way that you don't need that and that you can still have it, but not every day, you know, or again, the soda thing. If you're addicted to soda and you're switching to a diet soda, is that better for the body? Yes. It doesn't matter if it's good for the gut microbiome or not, because guess what, neither is fructose. You know, so you just have to look at your own personal journey and say, how am I using this? And I always have people use it as a stepping stone. So should we be having any like, Chemically processed food every single day on autopilot. No, but does that mean you can't have it? No, do you see the like really? I really like for clients to see the big picture and it's not so simple. I mean, I had a dermatologist appointment the other day and he's like, what's the one ingredient you tell people not to eat and I'm like, there isn't one and he was like, like what really what kind of a dietitian are you, you know, and it's like, well, that's not the problem. The problem isn't the Oreo. It's that you're eating a sleeve of Oreos every day. You could eat an Oreo every day and be totally fine

Baylee: 51:18

It's the same way we get the question of how do I lose weight? And like, I've talked to you for about five minutes right now. I don't know anything about you. Like you want me to just tell you being a calorie deficit. I'm not going to do that

Brittany: 51:29

yeah,

Baylee: 51:30

because you're going to take that as 1200 calories and I guarantee you need more than 1200. So I think a lot of this comes back to, yeah, the big picture point of view. And it's not just going to be one single thing that's going to cure you or make you the healthiest person alive.

Brittany: 51:46

yeah. Another way to think of what kind of sum up what I just said is like your diet coke every day isn't the reason you have severe bloating and diarrhea, right? Like again, it's one diet coke a day isn't the reason you can't lose. And we, again, it goes back like with gut health, we're trying to pinpoint the food. We do the same thing with weight loss. We're like, is that oatmeal I'm buying the right oatmeal. And it's like, that's not our problem.

Brianna: 52:12

My coffee creamer. It's my coffee

Brittany: 52:14

it's my coffee creamer. It has to be that one coffee creamer, right? Yes, exactly.

Brianna: 52:19

I dunno about that. I don't know about your nine tablespoon a day. I don't know if that's it.

Brittany: 52:24

yeah. Yeah. And again, it's just that bigger picture. And so again, it's funny cause people will fixate on the one tablespoon of coffee creamer, but then they're forgetting that they binge eat five nights a week. Right. Like it's not, you know, we, and it's our own brains. We block that out as a person. We're like, well, I'm not gonna try to look at that. It's gotta be

Baylee: 52:43

about that.

Brittany: 52:43

safe, you know? So again, it's a complete mindset shift. It's a complete. It's different than what we're saying on Instagram, what you see on Instagram. It's not the one ingredient. It's not the one food. It's literally everything and nothing at the same time. That's a terrible message to leave it with. everything and nothing. That's what you need to focus on.

Baylee: 53:04

Good luck everyone.

Brittany: 53:06

But I think that's the benefit of having a professional look at, you know, what's going on because it's hard to see our own stuff. Right? It's hard to see, like, our own patterns and how we're standing in our own way, but in outside perspective, it's like you mentioned before, like, dieticians, we're not here to just say, eat that, don't eat that. No, it's so much more than that. You know, people say, I know exactly what to do, I'm just not doing it. Well, you don't know what to do because you're not doing it. Right. So maybe it is the mindset stuff or maybe it is, you know, and having so much of what we do is just giving them clarity and peace of mind. Like what is that worth to not have to go down the rabbit hole of all the things that could be possibilities on Instagram just to have a clear, cohesive plan and to not second guess yourself is worth everything. Right.

Baylee: 53:55

Absolutely. And yeah, that not second guessing yourself or just that clarity is really what shifts the person from not doing the things to, okay, I'm doing this because XYZ. Because, yeah, we are overwhelmed as a whole, we don't know which direction to go, we don't know where to even begin because there's so many different things.

Brittany: 54:15

Absolutely. And that's what, that's the beauty we bring in is like we're streamlining it. Like this is what you need to do. Not your mailman, not your sister, you. Because it's different than what I, all three of us here, I would put us on a different plan. We all would, right? We have completely different lives and completely different bodies. And I think that's the beauty. Like if, if three dietitians in a room were all eating different slightly and living different, what other proof do you need that it's individualized, right?

Baylee: 54:45

Absolutely. I feel like we could literally just keep talking all day long. This is our problem with the podcast. We could just keep going and going and going. We actually, I guess we have

Brianna: 54:55

three hour podcast.

Brittany: 54:57

it's because we're all like a little bit nerdy, you know, and it's like, let's keep talking about like the problems and how we're going to solve them for people. And it's the passion, right? Like this is why we do what we do. And I think if you didn't want to keep talking about it, that would be the problem. So

Baylee: 55:12

Yes. Maybe we'll have to do like a part two and see like what other good health myths come up for other people. But as like a final word, do you want to talk about your new program shift? We've mentioned it a little bit. Do you want to kind of give a quick rundown on that?

Brittany: 55:26

sure. Yeah. Or just talk about kind of how people can work with that. Like if you're like, Ooh, I'm pooping my pants right now, Brittany, thank you so much for this is very. This is very great. Or they're listening on the toilet, you know, doing the normal things. So yeah, we do, we have the ability to work with you one on one. We just recently moved to a monthly model, which I am obsessed with. So it allows us to really, you know, if you just need a couple months of support, we can do that. If you need it to be longer, we can do that too. So we do work one on one with, you know, specific functional medicine approaches to healing gut and hormones and energy complaints. But then, yes, we just, just launched our new community called Shift, and we just did a, an alpha launch, which was really just to get a tiny group in so that they can help build the community with us. So as we speak right now, doors are not open. We have not gone into the beta launch yet, but it is a partnership between myself and Ori Goldstein, who is a hypnotist, which we were talking about before we started, like a hypnotist has a very, Like I remember when I first heard it, I was like, you know, like not, I don't want to be hypnotized. Right. But really what he is, is he's like a root cause therapist. So he's, it's like how we do food. Like we're not just going to fix the symptom. We're going to figure out like why it was there in the first place. He's the same way with your mind. So what is the thought what's standing in your way? So looking at like self sabotage, why can't you, you know, do these health behaviors? Why, you know, all of the things like what you mentioned before, like, oh, I was on Weight Watchers as a 10 year old. Well, yeah, but what else were you hearing grownups say about you? You're fat, you know, and it's like, that stays with you. And that's a huge problem. And it can literally be the reason You are self sabotaging or that you can't move forward, or what's the root cause of that all or nothing mindset. So as somebody you can understand, yeah, I have an all or nothing mindset and we can kind of work with that, but why is it there? Can we eliminate, like go back way back and say, okay, what's here because this happened and then fix that thing in your mind. That's what he does. And it's magical. I worked with him two times personally, and it literally changed my life. Like he is. Phenomenal. So it's a partnership between both of us, and we are like holding nothing back, pouring everything into this community and at the price point, it's going to be under 50 a month, and there's going to be lives, and hot seat coaching, and a lot of resources in there, and again, the purpose was just to build this massive community, and like, start a movement. Like, literally, that is what it is. It's addressing health in a way that has never been addressed before. Thank you. Because when you're taking a root cause approach to nutrition and then a root cause approach to your mind, like we talked about earlier, like

Baylee: 57:58

Wow.

Brittany: 57:59

you can do anything you wanted, right? You'll be a superhero. I don't even know. So it's going to be amazing. Like I said, we're not as we're speaking today, it's not beta launching yet, but it will be soon. We will have a, an email link that you can kind of get on the wait list for that. But I'm Super stoked. It's been such a fun community already. We have, like I said, we kept it at 25 for the first launch just to keep it small and like, if you could see the conversations going on in there, like it is a beautiful thing. Like, I'm so excited. It's like lighting me up right now. So

Baylee: 58:30

Yes, I'm excited. And I love how affordable you made it because I mean, I've seen several things that it's a similar idea, but it's like a one time session for 500. Like, Oh, nevermind. I'm just gonna stick with my mindset over here.

Brittany: 58:45

yeah. And to be fair. Yeah. Like that is like what we, you know, our one on ones if you work one on one with me or you work one on one with Ori, it is awesome. Way higher than that monthly price. And so we were like, how can we bring What we're doing and like the beauty we're bringing clients, like how can we bring that to a place that is so accessible that it is something that, you know, it's like fixing that health disparity. We don't want to be adding to it, but also our time. And it's so time consuming what we do in the one on ones. And so how do we bring that into like, bring it to the masses? And this was that answer. And I can tell you everyone who I've talked to about it, every practitioner who personally knows Ori and I, or every person they're like, This is literally huge, like, again, you just see that expertise and it's like, it makes so much sense. Where were we five years ago? Well, we didn't know each other, but you know what I'm saying? So yeah, I'm thrilled. I think it's going to be phenomenal. And we, again, have multiple practitioners in there already, so there's plenty of room for that. And yeah, it's going to be great. Yeah.

Baylee: 59:49

we're probably going to be a part of it too.

Brittany: 59:50

I know. I'll send you a link when we launch. Yes, for sure.

Baylee: 59:53

absolutely. Well, thank you Brittany for coming on today. Like I said, really good conversation that we could just keep going on and on, but I guess we have to get back to our other work stuff.

Brittany: 1:00:03

Yes.

Baylee: 1:00:04

So yes, thank you for taking your time out and we'll hopefully do a part two maybe.

Brittany: 1:00:09

Yes. Thank you so much for having me. I'd love to come back.

Baylee: 1:00:12

All right. Goodbye everyone. We will talk to you next week.