Mineral Mocktails with Robyn

Minerals have been all the hype lately! So, we decided to sit down with the mineral master and functional dietitian,  Robyn.
Robyn shares with is why minerals are so important, and explains the science behind proper cellular hydration. She also goes over common signs and symptoms of mineral depletion, and how minerals can improve common issues that you may see with your skin, hair, gut, energy and more!
She also gives some great pointers on how to start out if you are interested in incorporating minerals into your daily routine.

You can find Robyn on Instagram at https://www.instagram.com/nutritionbyrobyn/

You can snag Robyn's free mineral guide here! https://www.nutritionbyrobyn.com/mineral-mocktail-freebie

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Transcript

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All right. Hello, everyone. Welcome back to this week's episode of Mocktail Minutes. This is Bailey. And this is Brianna. And this week we are talking minerals. We've been asked several times to talk about them and I feel like we know a little bit about minerals. We get the basics but we decided to call in an expert. So we have Robin here today. Robin do you want to introduce yourself and give us a little bit of a background on you? Yeah, you bet. My name's Robin. I have been a functional dietician for going on 10 years now, which is wild. I got into this space because I had psoriasis and my, I was out of options. I was told my only option was an immunosuppressant drug. So I really dove into root cause medicine and changed my skin. It changed the direction of my career and that's why I do what I do. And over the years, I just saw with clients how impactful minerals were and then just got More into the weeds as you know, that's a really deep rabbit hole and that's what's led me here So the focus with our clients is primarily skin issues and we do a lot with minerals within that. Mm hmm Yeah, I always thought it was interesting how your dietitian But also like you took the skin disorder approach to it, which is I feel like kind of rare for dietitians There's not a lot of us doing skin. I really don't know that many. There's definitely less than five I can think of off the top of my head. But it is an area that, so millions of people struggling with either acne, psoriasis, eczema, hives, rosacea. So there's a lot of people that need help and like with a lot of chronic conditions, there's not a lot of long term care. Root cause solutions in the conventional space. So it's an area that definitely needs some practitioners doing this work. Yeah. Oh, and we didn't even share our mocktails we're doing. So I'm doing, of course, ravy today, especially since you're on. So I'm doing the hibiscus mint berry flavor. That one's my favorite right now. That's funny. I'm doing ravy too, obviously, but I have the passion pineapple. That's so funny. I'm actually doing maybe two. Of course I, of course I am. I'm doing hibiscus and then I just worked out so I actually put some collagen in with it to get a little bit of protein with it. You can't even taste it. Yes. Yeah. Sometimes I just like add everything to my mocktail. I'm like, okay, we need some minerals. We need some creatine. Maybe I'll throw in my probiotic. It's just all in there. It's fine. Yeah. Yes. So we've had kind of a lot of questions that have came up since we've teased a little bit about you coming on. Do you want to give like a brief overview? Well, I think a good question that we had come in is like, how do we know if we need to add minerals to our day? Because I mean, from what I understand, I think everyone can kind of benefit from a mineral mocktail every day. Yeah, I would agree. I would say most people benefit from minerals. It's kind of like asking who needs electrolytes. Well, everyone needs electrolytes. Do you need to go above and beyond with supplementation? That's where there's just nuance. It depends what your stress is like. How much are you sweating? What's your exercise like? Maybe if it's summer, you need more. But generally speaking, because we live in a go go go society, majority of people have stress. And anybody with stress could benefit from minerals, which is why I think with talking about mineral mocktails so often on Instagram and people trying these very simple drinks, they feel so much better so quickly. And it's just, it's such an easy thing to do. In my opinion, there's low risk, high reward with just trying mineral mocktails. So I would say most people would benefit from giving it some attention. I know one that's important is sodium. And that's also one that many people are scared to add in. And I mean, I think for a good reason, we've always been told, like, to not salt our food, to avoid it. Even as dietitians, that was something that I just. Never did, because we had it engraved into our head, salt was bad, and my sodium levels actually got super low when I was in my internship, and I started passing out, so. Wow. Yeah, there's a lot unfortunately, that's kind of how we were all. Trained and even as health professionals, we've been, you know, sodium has been demonized and I think a lot of us in the health profession probably did that in college where you just went mrs dash. You just cut out the sodium. You got flavor elsewhere and it's even. more problematic, I think, if you are health focused, because you're not getting the sodium in the junk food as often. And if you're not then salting your food, not only does food not taste as good, but you need sodium. And it's unfortunate that there's a lot of history that's made people fear it, and there's a lot of misconceptions, and I think problems with that science as well. There's actually a really good book called The Salt Fix if anyone really wants a deep dive on the history of how we got to this place of fearing salt. It's quite the journey, but I would argue that we've done a disservice to people by putting so much fear on sodium rather than just promoting the importance of potassium because there's There is a balance between all these. It is certainly not good to just eat a bunch of salt, not consume enough water, and not consume enough potassium. That's not a good recipe. That could lead to high blood pressure issues. But if you consume sodium, you drink enough water, and you get enough potassium, majority of people are going to feel the best with all of that, including adequate sodium. I think that's, I think that's a good, like, this is a good area to bring up. Like, okay, so where's a good starting part, starting point? How much is too much? Because I feel like when people finally start to be like, okay, I do need salt. I'm not going to fear it. They're like making their mineral mocktails. And then some people are like, oh, I just felt really puffy and bloated after. And I think it's like maybe too much salt too fast. I'm always telling people like Start with potassium, but I'm also not like the mineral guru. So yeah, no, you have a good point And I think there's a couple ways to look at this You know the the type a people what I would say is if you want to track your intake for a couple days Put what you're eating in an app like chronometer and look at how many milligrams of sodium are you getting? How many milligrams of potassium are you getting and slowly work up from there? Most people aren't gonna do the tracking which is totally fine. So I would say If you start with a mineral mocktail recipe and you feel puffy, pull back on the sodium, start focusing on just the potassium, maybe give that a couple weeks, and with your sodium, just start doing little pinches. Put little pinches of more salt in your water. Put some pinches of salt on your food. You will build up. to not getting puffy with that. But, you don't want to jump too fast with sodium and not have enough potassium. That is going to cause water retention, which nobody feels good with you want to explain a little bit the relationship to sodium and potassium because like I feel like we don't ever really talk about that a lot. And that is also something I notice is people start the mocktails and then maybe they go get labs and now their sodium is like super high. The first thing is, all right, let's take out all the sodium is what they're told by their doctor where that might not be what they need to do. Yeah, especially if you're already eating really healthy foods, you might actually benefit from sodium. So we all have sodium potassium pumps on our cells. They're two of the minerals that we have the most of in our body. The others would be calcium and magnesium. So we need these to survive. And sodium and potassium work very closely together. An analogy that I often use is a grape versus a raisin, and so if you think about a grape, it has a lot of water in it. That's what you want. You want that in your cells. You want them to be nice and hydrated. Well, picture sodium and potassium are working closely together on the skin of the grape, and we need them both present to allow water in and out of the cell. So if you don't have enough potassium, Your body through various signals, we won't get into all the nerdy nerdy names. If you don't have enough potassium, that water is going to stay outside the cell, and therefore you're going to feel that puffiness. But that's the, that's the reason you need both, because you want that water coming in and out, but if you pull, Either sodium or potassium out. You could risk your cells being all shriveled up like a grape, which means you're going to feel puffy, but you're also not going to have the hydration in your cells, which means you're going to feel tired. You're probably gonna be having to pee all the time. You might have issues sleeping and, and the list of these problems could, you know, we could go on and on. Yeah, I really think sometimes. A mineral mocktail can solve so many problems for many people, and I think one thing that does surprise people is that we really don't have to be peeing all day long, and also, our pee should have a little bit of color to it, which is another thing I feel like we've always kind of been told, like, if you have clear pee, you're doing amazing, like, yeah, you're overly hydrated, maybe. Yeah, like carrying around your gallon jug and drink it the whole day until it's just clear. Exhausting, exhausting. No, and also we get water through foods too. We get water in fruits and, you know, vegetables and other foods. So it's not necessary to carry a gallon. You're going to feel a lot better if you maybe reduce your water, but just add minerals to it. Mm hmm. And you don't have to feel it either. Easy fix. Yeah. You kind of mentioned it, but do you want to go over some of the top minerals to focus on? So we have sodium, potassium. Yeah, I would say, you know, without just generally speaking, without Any individuality here, because we have the most abundant minerals in our body are going to be sodium, potassium, calcium, and magnesium. And so those are typically the ones with clients that we're trying to focus on, which is why when I created the mineral mocktail recipes, it's sodium, potassium, and magnesium. The only reason dairy isn't in that is because no one's going to put cheese in their drinks. And a lot of people don't tolerate milk. So some of the recipes have it. But those three are the focus. And then outside of that, I would say ensuring that you're getting calcium through food sources would be the next step. But those really are the main minerals that I would recommend giving attention to. And Mineral mocktails or just doing this in, in a drink per day is such an easy place to start where you don't have to think, okay, I need to have this many bananas today or this many potatoes or measure my salt or think about magnesium. It's just drink this drink once a day. Or start there and eat some calcium rich fruits. Done. super simple. Yeah, make it easy. Is there, I mean, I know everyone is super individual, so you can't just be like, Ooh, I mean, everyone's gonna be perfect starting here, but for someone who's wanting to start out on a mineral mocktail, they don't really know what to do, where would you recommend starting? I would have a bunch of recipes. That's honestly where I would start. And I can link that or send that to you all. there's Multiple ways, and honestly, start with a food version. Pull out maybe what you have at home, and this also depends on what you like. Coconut water, for instance, is a great source of potassium. So you could get a cup, maybe do either half coconut water or all coconut water, grab some salt, preferably a mineralized salt like Celtic salt or Redmond's Real Salt, put a pinch in there, And then magnesium, this is usually, you know, there's a little bit of magnesium in coconut water, but usually we're doing a powder version or, or you could do a capsule because that's just harder to get in certain dosages. And if you do a powder, stir that in, call it good. That's a mineral mocktail. Now, you and we all started this by saying we're drinking ravy. That's a product. And so that's a version that has it. It's obviously quite flavorful, but there's a lot of different ways to do it. I always have people just experiment because. You're only going to feel the benefits if it's something you're doing consistently. So we want you to enjoy it and like the taste of it. We have clients that will make it into a hot tea. We have clients that will make it with milk and do a bit of a creamsicle recipe. I personally have been on a big kick of making a hot cocoa, and so I add my minerals into that. There's a lot of flexibility here, so I would say we'll send you our recipe guide. If people want to try it, just scan the recipes, look at what might be accessible or you want to experiment with, and just try it. I think a popular brand minerals slash electrolytes is element, which is one that I don't know about you, but I don't necessarily like to start with, especially for people who are already eating like pretty healthy, not doing a lot of processed foods, because I feel like that's a big jump in sodium. And then, yeah, people don't feel so great. I agree. Element tea has its place for sure. And it's typically we kind of reserve it for the people who need a lot of sodium, but don't really need as much magnesium or maybe not as much potassium because that is what element delivers. It's very high in sodium. I personally like to use their chocolate versions in my hot Cocos, but. It doesn't have the potassium that I need, so I get that elsewhere in my day. But it has its place, for sure. Yeah, perfect. Yeah, I think that's just a good, I think that's a good thing to bring up, is like, not all products are created equal. Like, I know another popular one is Jigsaw, and even theirs are really different. Like, their Pickleball, compared to their Electrolyte, compared to their They're like mineral. I think it's actually their adrenal cocktail. It's all, that's all different. So I think it's, it's important to know that like, if you think you've tried it and it just hasn't worked, like there's lots of different ways. Right. And I'll have it in the show notes. I also think it's important to give permission to experiment here. I mean, unless you have chronic kidney disease or heart failure, most people are safe to experiment here with these minerals. And. Because I often get questions almost that are fearful, like they're scared to try a mineral drink because they don't want to overdo it. The levels that we're talking about in these drinks are very safe. And, you know, the, the negatives could be that, yeah, maybe you have a little bit more water retention that day and you realize, oh, I need to cut back on the sodium. That was your little experiment. So I think giving people permission to just be okay with a little self experimentation here and listening to the, your body's response to it and then tweaking adjustments from there. But generally speaking, these are pretty safe unless you have a diagnosis where you're probably already aware of the fact that you need to be. careful about your potassium and your sodium. How would you say, I mean, I guess experimenting, but other ways to kind of know what amounts you need of each, how would you kind of know that? I would say the ones that I see most often are too much sodium too quickly, which we kind of already spoke about, which is typically going to be water retention or feeling puffiness. The other most common one would be if people add magnesium, a high amount of magnesium, Even 100, 200 milligrams, if you add magnesium and you feel your heart's racing, or you feel like you're having heart palps, or you have, your anxiety's increased, or you're having trouble sleeping, that typically means you're getting too much magnesium compared to sodium. In that case, I would cut the magnesium and just focus on the other minerals. This is stuff that you can actually get tested if you do mineral, proper mineral testing, but You know, if you're not doing that, you're just trying to pay attention to symptoms. Those are the most common ones. Too much sodium too quickly or too much magnesium too quickly. Perfect. What are, like we, we kind of touched on it a little bit, but what are signs that your minerals are depleted and like maybe you could benefit and really, like we've already said, everyone can benefit, but what are like some common signs that you see that people, they get improvement from, from a mineral drink? Yeah, I would say number one is energy. Because if we're talking about that grape analogy, of course you're not going to have energy if your cells are raisins. You don't have fluid that all these mechanisms and reactions happen in. So that's number one. The most common benefit people DM me about with minerals is my energy's increased. I would also say sleep improvement. The peeing all day can go away when you start to mineralize. Those are kind of immediate. I would say the longer term ones can also be things like constipation, even stabilizing your moods. We can even get into the impact minerals have on hormones and skin. I mean, minerals, generally speaking, are required for everything in your body to happen. They're often referred to as the spark plug of your cell. They turn on all these enzymes. So they touch every system. And so, you know, there's a lot of things we could say that are, are related to minerals. Not all of them are quick wins, which is often what people are looking for, but they are foundational to how the body works. I've even had people who have been drinking like the gallon waters and then they start minerals and like well I'm not even that thirsty. Like I feel like I don't need as much water and I think that's a great sign to be like Okay. Well now we're probably actually hydrating ourselves It's not just running right through us now at this point and there's no need to force a bunch of water If you're not if you're hydrating, well, that's good well, I guess we kind of already touched on this, but I've been seeing a lot of, a lot of people on Instagram and you can say this for everything, right? But so many that are like, you don't need a mineral mocktail to be hydrated. Like your body doesn't need it. I keep seeing that. And I feel like that's kind of silly to be like, you don't need minerals or, you know, I don't know. Like, yes, we can get hydration, right? But it's like the quality. Yeah, that's interesting. I haven't heard that and I, I'd really want to talk to someone saying that cause that's almost like saying you don't need the sun to get vitamin D. Well, you kind of, you kind of do actually. I mean, yes, you can get it through supplements, but that's not ideal. And we do, we can't for the most part, we can't manufacture minerals. We have to get them from food or water. And if we look at our. Water supply. A lot of people are filtering their waters and sometimes using filters that actually strip out the minerals. So, are you getting your minerals through water? In that case, probably not. Our soil. I mean, a lot of the studies done on the, the nutrients in our soil were done in the 70s. And our agricultural system, what's put on the soil is very different. There's a lot of products used that bind to the minerals in our soil. And our soil is just not as nutrient dense as it was decades ago. So are we getting the same amount of minerals in our food? That's debatable. Then you add on the fact that we are stressed. We are stressed, and we burn through minerals quickly when you're stressed. That's very well known, especially magnesium. When you put all these things together, our water's not as, may not be as nutrient rich. Our food is not as nutrient rich. We're using minerals faster. I would say that sets up a pretty decent picture for us needing to give mineral detachment. Mm hmm. And I think also like, sorry, like the quality of our diet, like we have demonized fruit. So not a lot of people are eating fruit. And then we've also demonized things like potatoes that are like super rich in potassium and things like that. So I, I feel like we're not getting. minerals from where we should be. Yeah. And I could add to that with your point there is we've also started to demonize meat and animal foods and that is the most bioavailable form of minerals. So if we look at how well are we taking the food, digesting it and absorbing the nutrients that happens for minerals that we get the most nutrients from animal foods. So if someone's not eating that or if they have poor digestion. Then again, that's another layer that might be impacting how well you're actually receiving these minerals that your body needs. And we actually I think it was a couple weeks ago did an episode on a little bit on gut health like constipation and bloating Can you touch a little bit on how these minerals affect digestion? Mm hmm. Yeah So if I you know, there's different layers to digestion but let's just say the we'll start in the stomach where our food starts or we chew it it lands in our stomach and In order for us to be able to break that down so that it can move to the next step, we need to have stomach acid. And that triggers our digestive enzymes to break down the food. Well, in order to make stomach acid, we need minerals, two big ones being sodium and zinc. So without it, I mean, this is something we see with clients that they're They're not digesting their food well, because they're not making stomach acid. And yes, some people might turn to things like digestive enzymes as a solution. That's still a band aid. You wouldn't, shouldn't have to rely on digestive enzymes. So what if we looked a layer deeper and actually assessed, are you getting the minerals? you need to be able to make these enzymes. That's one step. And then if we look at constipation, minerals like potassium are important for peristalsis, which is what moves that gut motility. It's the movement for our bowel movements to be triggered. You need potassium for that. This is one of the reasons people notice a difference in their digestion when they start mineral mocktails. because they're pretty dense in potassium, which is going to help with that motility. That's not even considering the fact that just being hydrated can help with digestion, which is just very, very basic. But these minerals, again, they touch every body system, including digestive health. Yeah. And I think that's A very good one that people will see later on once they continue doing the mineral mocktails and everything like really nothing bad is going to happen. Yeah, maybe you might get a little puffy, but it just tells us maybe we need to adjust it a little bit, but nothing bad is going to happen from adding minerals. And that can go away in 24 hours. You realize, oh, too much sodium too quickly. I mean, people do that all the time when they go out to dinner and have a high sodium meal, but they don't freak out about that. But yet adding a mineral mocktail causes people hesitation. So it's honestly the same thing. You'll, of course, your body will course correct because it's designed to do that. That's what sodium and potassium do together. And then the next day, you're just going to cut the potassium or that sodium in half. Try it again. That's a really good point because I mean, I work with mainly weight loss clients and it's, I mean, usually people are up on a Monday because their diet looked different throughout the weekend. If you ate out more, you have more sodium, you have more carbohydrates, you drink alcohol, like yes, your weight is going to increase on Monday because just more of that water retention. So I like that analogy, analogy of just thinking about, yeah, if we ate a high sodium meal, which we do, Then, yeah, we're going to retain more water and we're not as worried. So, yeah, mineral mocktails can be helpful and. It's not the end of the world if we do get a little puffy the next day. In that case, I would just say grab some potassium, grab some revy or whatever potassium source, focus on that on that Monday. You'll probably pee a little bit more because you are kind of flushing that out and you'll be reset by Tuesday. It's perfect. Yeah, you kind of touched on like zinc a little bit. Do you want to talk about, and if you feel comfortable talking about like, because I know there's a lot of people who like to supplement with like zinc, I know that can kind of be like an iffy, like one that you might want to like. Not do you want to do you want to touch on that because I get that question a lot like zinc and iron. Yeah. Yeah, honestly, I I generally don't recommend supplementing with zinc or iron without proper testing because there can be problems With both I think iron is more problematic because there's a lot of layers to why are you if you're anemic? Why are you anemic? There's deeper questions to ask before just giving more iron, which can actually be problematic for some people Zinc And copper have a one on one relationship, or they should be in, in similar ratios. We want a one to one relationship between zinc and copper. So the problem is zinc is very popular. A lot of people talk about it for immune system, skin health. And so it's one that people just supplement on their own with more, but they're not. That's not the same with copper. People don't talk about copper, and so it's quite easy for people to take a bunch of zinc, maybe be on that for months in the winter, and unknowingly be driving down their copper, which is also really important for your immune system. I mean, we could go on and on about the importance of copper. So, I, that's why I say I generally don't recommend those unless you're testing and you're seeing that you have a need for it. Now, if you're noticing that you're getting sick or you got exposed to a virus, might I recommend taking, acutely taking higher amounts of zinc? Sure, because it's antiviral properties, but long term, I wouldn't do that without proper testing. With the testing, do you start with? HTMA testing. Do you do the lab work? Do you do both? What's kind of your approach? Both. I like HTMA testing, hair tissue mineral analysis testing, for honestly, it's a way to see how your, how your minerals are responding to stress. It's not even the best mineral test, per se. It's a way to see how is your, how are your minerals responding to stress. But when it comes to iron, zinc, and copper, I actually like to look at those in the blood. And so it really just depends on what, what we're looking at. I, we do both with all of our clients, blood and HTMI testing. Since this is kind of a topic that people get freaked out about because of the sodium piece of things. Do you have any additional resources that you have found helpful for? people to kind of start more of their own research that's maybe more updated or just explains everything. Because I know you have your mineral mocktail guidebook and that is super, super informational. I really enjoy having that and I send it to a lot of people. Yeah, that would be a Me too. Oh, thank you. That's a good place to start if you're just looking for what action steps should I take. If you are really concerned about sodium, maybe you have your family history of blood pressure issues or you want the data to help you back up a decision. I think the book The Salt Fix does a really good job of summarizing how we got to that place with fear and just presenting some questions to really think about. The one thing I will say about that book, it does a great job of kind of giving sodium a seat at the table. But it just really demonizes sugar in place of that, which I don't think is a good swap. So just take that with a grain of salt. But I do think that if someone really wants some more research to feel better about sodium, that's a great place to start. Anything else you want to add that you think would be important for people to know when starting their mineral journey, their mocktail journey, anything like that? We've covered a lot of really good topics. I think we've covered the big ones. And again, I think I just want to end on the importance of being okay with a little bit of experimentation and because there's just a lot of fear. I notice in at least my conversations on DMS about people being so nervous to try something in this space. And I get it, you know, the supplements, those things can be intimidating. You don't want to do harm to yourself. And I would say, this is. At least with mineral mocktails, they're a very safe place to start. So if you're nervous, just do the steps that feel safe to you. Maybe that means trying a recipe, but cutting the ingredients by a, by a quarter or by half. And do baby steps until you feel okay about it, but I would just say don't avoid it completely out of fear because there's so much benefit to minerals here. Yes, we talk a lot about just the simple steps that do make a huge difference. And I feel like we talk about in every one of our episodes where it's just something we, we always brush over the simple things because they do seem too simple. Like, why is it going to work to just add some sodium potassium to my drink? When it could be just that and you saved yourself a lot of trouble and headaches and lots of different things so Kind of thinking about it like you're just grabbing a gatorade again. No one would think twice about Gatorade, but there's a lot of hesitation to grab a mineral mocktail. It's A much healthier version and barely similar, but even, even better. Mm hmm. Yeah, I always think about that when we think about like, how hesitant people are about certain things, and then we do things every day that we don't even think twice about. We're like, all the coffee and all the soda and all the just everything else that we drink. Minerals, hold on now. You're eating them. It's okay. And that's why I just think the more practitioners talking about it, the more. We more, we normalize it, the the less fear that there will be. And I will say, I mean, if we look at how popular Minerals are now, I mean look at all the products coming to the market with minerals that is not the same as it was 10, 15 years ago. So we, we are making progress, but we definitely still have some work to do. Yeah, I would say, I mean, it's even changed within the past year or so. I've only been a dietician for about a year and a half, and I feel like when I first started, well, I guess. When I first started coaching for Metabolism Makeover is where I started to learn more about it just through Megan introducing us to you and that's where I started to get more. So I feel like They're definitely finding their place in the world. And I feel like an expense is another thing people are concerned about with mineral mocktails. And that's where I bring up the fact, like you could just make your own, you don't have to buy the powders and it is cheaper than a Gatorade and more beneficial or something like that. And hey, well, you don't have to do mineral mocktails, you can, you can use foods. And this is something that we have an HTMA kind of mineral mini course that we give people as resources for foods and whatnot, but potatoes, bananas, there's plenty of foods, dairy that has calcium and potassium. There's a lot of foods that you could just really give those foods attention and not need an additional mineral drink that's on the table that doesn't cost extra. Make sure you're not buying products. These drinks are simply for, I mean, at least I'll put myself in this box, us type A's who are go, go, go. We're busy. We need things to be simple and we want the biggest bang for our buck. That's mineral mocktails. Yeah, they make it super simple, easy, and just less something you have to add to your to do list almost. Just takes the thought out of it. Like, let me just, I'm going to put a scoop in water and call it a day. I mean, just like with anything, you can make it work for whatever works with your lifestyle. And that's the beauty of it, I guess. And it's quite motivating when you introduce a habit and you start to feel better. So if we can get something that's very easy, it takes less than 60 seconds and you're going to feel the difference within 24 hours. I mean, that is rare in the health field, which is why I think these are also just taking off. Perfect. The only other question I have is I get a lot of questions about adding like Vitamin C or whole food vitamin C to your mocktail drink. I know that that's important with collagen for sure Is it as important with your minerals? No, the reason that you'll typically see vitamin C talked about is because when we refer to things as adrenal cocktails that concoction is Specific for adrenals, which is sodium, potassium, and vitamin C because vitamin C is a big nutrient for adrenal health. So that's why you often see it in that conversation. But generally speaking, just for cellular hydration, vitamin C is not, does not need a big seat at the table for, for that. I think people also get confused too with talking about like minerals versus electrolyte drinks, kind of like the adrenal cocktail versus a mineral mocktail. Yeah, it's kind of like tomato, tomato. There's so many terms, you know, there's, yeah, there's adrenal cocktail, mineral mocktail, just electrolytes. So. They're very similar. There might be some little details that are different. I would say for most people, don't worry about the differences there. Pick a recipe that works for you. And you know that their minerals are electrolytes. So they're very similar. All right, electrolytes are minerals, not all minerals are electrolytes, but yes, it gets a little crazy, but most people don't need to know all those details. Absolutely. Well, thank you so much for coming on and sharing your brain with us today. I think it's going to be super helpful. Thank you for having me on. Yes. Do you want to share where people can find you and like on Instagram, wherever they can locate you? I'm at Nutrition by Robin on all the places that's Nutrition by Robin, Robin with a Y, and that's my website too. And then ravey. com is our mineral products, so that I'm sure you all will link that, but that is also a resource for making minerals easier. What is your favorite ravy flavor? I am a hibiscus mint berry girl, but it kind of depends on the day. I will, I'll change it up quite a bit, but that is the one I reach for most often. Okay. Any good like mixes for the turmeric one? Oh yes. My favorite way, most people's favorite way to use that is with a little bit of cream or your milk of choice. So even if you just have water, just putting a splash of cream is So delicious. You can also heat that one up or you can heat any of them up, but having that in a little bit of a warm drink is just very fall winter vibes. I've, I've done that one with coconut milk before, but I did it with like half a cup of coconut milk and it was just too much. So that's a good idea. Maybe just do like a splash of it. People will also put a splash of lime juice or lemon juice, which is also really good. I'll have to try that because I do have one of those in my pantry, but that one I like the other ones better with just water. That one I like to add a little something with it too. Yeah. You'll have to try it with a little citrus. Yes. Okay. I'll try some lime. I have some lime juice. Perfect. Great. Well, yeah. Thank you guys for listening and we will talk to you guys next week. I don't even know what we're talking about next week, but we'll be back next week to talk more. Bye everyone.